Route Grade Votings
Total votes cast 12
This sustained route follows the left-hand side of the superb grey sheet of rock. Start as for the first pitch of Eliminator. Move up, as for Eliminator, then break right on a subtle line across slabby grey rock (peg) to a bulge. Climb up and then back right, with more difficulty, to an overhang and thread (possible stance). Pull up left through the overhang, via a crack, to reach a small tree. Easier ground leads to a large rounded scoop (loose). Follow this to finish.
A little tough for E1. Start also quite bold. Top bit is scrappy.
Agree quite tough for E1 and top pitch fairly poor and a bit loose
We pulled a block off the top pitch which rolled all the way down to the valley floor and killed a cow...in 1989. I am only now getting over it! Hehe
Probably a bit of a sandbag at the original grade of E1. E2 5b seems about right, a good route which requires typical Clwyd care! Actually only 30m, done in one pitch according to the halfway marks on our ropes.
Good climbing But felt like 5c to me too